Attributed To:Recalls TALEIDES P by BEAZLEY TALEIDES by SIGNATURE
Decoration: Body: KOMOS, MEN SEATED ON STOOL AND BLOCK, ONE PLAYING PIPES, ONE WITH SKYPHOS (NAMED)
Last Recorded Collection: Berlin, Antikensammlung: 31131
Previous Collections:
Rome, market
Berlin, Schloss Charlottenburg: 31131
Publication Record: Beazley, J.D., Attic Black-Figure Vase-Painters (Oxford, 1956): 176.2, 670.1 Beazley, J.D., Paralipomena (Oxford, 1971): 73, 317 Carpenter, T.H., with Mannack, T. and Mendonca, M., Beazley Addenda, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1989): 49 Corpus Vasorum Antiquorum: BERLIN, ANTIKENMUSEUM 7, 50-51, BEILAGE 9.1, PL.(3033) 40.1-4 View Whole CVA Plates Gerhard, E., Auserlesene Vasenbilder (Berlin, 1840-58): IV, PL.316.2-3 (COLOUR DRAWING OF BD) Heilmeyer, W-D. et al., Antikenmuseum Berlin, Die ausgestellten Werke (Berlin, 1988): 88, NO.1 Schlesier, R. and Schwarzmaier, A. (eds.), Dionysos, Verwandlung und Ekstase (Berlin, 2008): 164-5, NO.15 (COLOUR OF BD AND PART OF BD) Verbanck-Pierard, A. and Viviers, D., (eds.), Culture et Cite, L'avenement d'Athenes a l'epoque archaique, Actes du Colloque int. (Brussels, 1995): 171, FIG.3 (DRAWING)
CAVI Lemma: BF oinochoe. From Vulci. Taleides Painter (?). Taleides, potter. Third
quarter sixth.
CAVI Subject: Komos: two men seated, one playing the flute, the other holding a large
skyphos.
CAVI Inscriptions: Along the left margin, starting at the top, not filling the whole space,
facing the margin: Ταλει[δες εποιεσε]ν. Above the scene, starting to left of the
right komast's forehead: χαιρε και πι[ει]{1}. Betweeen the komasts' lower
bodies, but closer to the one with the skyphos and facing him: Διον[υ]σιος,
retr. On the skyphos, in a zone indicated by two incised lines, Gr.: Καλ[λ]ιας
κ[αλος]. Along the right margin, in a position similar to that of the signature,
but not quite parallel to the margin, facing it: Nεοκλειδες καλος, retr.{2}.
CAVI Footnotes: {1} so CVA, text, but the ph. seems to show a trace of the final iota.
Perhaps incomplete (Beazley (1932)); Tillyard omits the last iota. {2} the text
in CVA reads the inscription upside down.
CAVI Comments: Beazley left open the possibility that this vase is by the Taleides Painter
(see ABV 174, top). The handwriting would suit (see AttScr). Now cleaned, hence
Mommsen definitely att. to the Taleides Painter. - Shapiro: the kalos Neokleides
who appears on three BF vases (ABV 176) may be an ancestor of Themistocles; he
probably dedicated a marble statuette on the Acropolis ca. 500-490 (DAA, no.
43). A Ceramicus ostracon of Phrasikles son of Neokles, Delt. 1968, 28, should
be read son of Neokleides (Willemsen to Shapiro); this Neokleides may be the
kalos. According to Plut., Them. 32,3, Th. had a nephew called Phrasikles. This
is the junior branch of the Lykomedai. Cf. also the name Phrasikleia. - Mommsen
says that the pertinence of the inscriptions cannot be determined. [I thought,
from the positions, that the flautist is anonymous, the bearded komast {that
with the skyphos} is Dionysios and Kallias is a kalos, not figured.] M. refers
to Louvre F 24 as a parallel for drinking inscriptions not on cups. - Attic
alphabet. ABV gives the sigmas of Dionysios and the Neokleides inscription as
reversed.
CAVI Number: 2493
AVI Bibliography: Tillyard (1923), no. 13, p. 28/2. — Beazley (1932), 199 and n. 4 (not ill.).
— Neugebauer (1932), 65 (not ill.). — ABV (1956), 176/2, 668 (wrong ref.), 670.
— ARV[2] (1963), 1588. — Para. (1971), 73. — Add.[2] (1989), 49. — Shapiro
(1989), 73 and nn. 61-62. — AttScr (1990), no. 268. — Lissarrague (1990a),
60-61, fig. 42 (sketch with inscriptions). — H. Mommsen, CVA Berlin 7, Germany
61 (1991), pl. 40 (cl.), Beilage I.
CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
