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215701, ATHENIAN, Naples, private, Hamilton, Deepdene, private, Thomas Hope, London, private, Revelstoke, Hillsborough (CA), W.R. Hearst, T139

  • Vase Number: 215701
  • Fabric: ATHENIAN
  • Technique: RED-FIGURE
  • Shape Name: KRATER, BELL
  • Date: -450 to -400
  • Attributed To: KADMOS P by TILLYARD
  • Decoration: A: APOLLO AND MARSYAS SEATED ON ROCK PLAYING PIPES, ARTEMIS WITH TORCH, TRIPOD ON COLUMN
    B: DRAPED YOUTHS
  • Last Recorded Collection: Hillsborough (CA), W.R. Hearst: 20
  • Previous Collections:
    • Naples, private, Hamilton
    • Deepdene, private, Thomas Hope: T139
    • London, private, Revelstoke
  • Publication Record: Beazley, J.D., Attic Red-Figure Vase-Painters, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1963): 1185.13
    Beazley, J.D., Attische Vasenmaler des rotfigurigen Stils (Tübingen, 1925): 451.7
    Lenormant, C. and de Witte, J., Elite des monuments ceramographiques (1837-61): II, PL.62 (A)
    Lenormant, C. and de Witte, J., Elite des monuments ceramographiques (1837-61): II, PL.62 (COLOUR DRAWING OF A)
    Tillyard, E., The Hope Vases (Cambridge, 1923): PL.23 (A)
    Tischbein, W., Collection of Engravings from Ancient Vases...now in the possession of Sir W. Hamilton (Naples, 1791-95): I, PL.33 (A)
  • AVI Web: https://www.avi.unibas.ch/DB/searchform.html?ID=4167
  • AVI Record Number: 4006
  • LIMC ID: 18606
  • LIMC Web: http://ark.dasch.swiss/ark:/72163/080e-74ab1d761d2bd-c
  • CAVI Collection: Hillsborough, CA, William Randolph Hearst 20.
  • CAVI Lemma: RF bell krater. Kadmos Painter. Last quarter fifth. 435-420 (Raubitschek).
  • CAVI Subject: A: in the center, a satyr (Marsyas) seated on a rock and playing the flutes; to his right, a tripod; at left, a woman holding a torch; at right, a youth (Apollo) with his staff ending in laurel{1}. B: three youths.
  • CAVI Inscriptions: A: above the woman: Nοσσ. Above the satyr: Μολκος. Above the youth: Αλκις{2}.
  • CAVI Footnotes: {1} Apollo and Marsyas (Tillyard). {2} so I.K.R. Tillyard had Αλκος or Αλχος, and the inscriptions in a different order. Not in LGPN ii, but see Pape (both mythological and human). {3} Cf. Nοσσος, iv B.C., LGPN ii.
  • CAVI Comments: Gerhard had suggested reading Μολπος and this and the reading Αελιος are found in Élite. Kretschmer, who read Μολκος, relates this name to μολπη. G. Neumann apud K.-D. rejects Kretschmer's connection of Μολκος with μελπομαι unless the name is emended to Μολπος; he suggests perhaps a dialectal variant to μαλακος (`schlaff'), possibly Cretan, but considers the word obscure. I.K.R. compares the scene on A with the neck of the Kadmos Painter's volute krater, Ruvo 1093, ARV[2] 1184/1 and cites Sichtermann for considering its pictures theatrical (note the tripod). If so she thinks the names may be the names of dithyrambic choreutae, reading Nοσσ[ος]{3}. Kossatz-Deissmann lists Molkos as a satyr name.
  • CAVI Number: 4006
  • AVI Bibliography: Tischbein (1791–5), i, 82/139, pl. 33. — Inghirami (1835), pl. 327 (after Tischbein). — Lenormant–de Witte (1837–61), ii, pl. 62 (after Tischbein). — Gerhard (1840–58), i, 210. — Kretschmer (1894), 145. — C. Fränkel (1912), 70, 96/u. — Tillyard (1923), 82/139, pl. 23. — RE XVI/1 (1933), s.v. Molkos (Scherling). — ARV[2] (1963), 1185/13, 341. — I.K. Raubitschek (1969), 71/20, (A, B and parts). — Froning (1971), 37 with n. 234, and 40/K 10. — Add.[2] (1989), 341. — Kossatz-Deissmann (1991), 163 (Molkos 1).
  • CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
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