213194, ATHENIAN, Florence, Museo Archeologico Etrusco, PD66
- Vase Number: 213194
- Fabric: ATHENIAN
- Technique: RED-FIGURE
- Shape Name: CUP FRAGMENT
- Provenance: ITALY, POPULONIA
- Date: -475 to -425
- Inscriptions: Inscription: METRU. MENECE
- Attributed To: Group of PENTHESILEA P by BEAZLEY
- Decoration: I: DRAPED YOUTHS, FILLET SUSPENDED
- Current Collection: Florence, Museo Archeologico Etrusco: PD66
- Publication Record: Beazley, J.D., Attic Red-Figure Vase-Painters, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1963): 969.66
Carpenter, T.H., with Mannack, T. and Mendonca, M., Beazley Addenda, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1989): 308
Revue des Etudes Anciennes: 89 (1987), 266, FIG.1 (DRAWING)
Torelli, M., The Etruscans (Milan, 2000): 260 RIGHT (COLOUR) - AVI Web: https://www.avi.unibas.ch/DB/searchform.html?ID=3879
- AVI Record Number: 3702
- CAVI Collection: Florence PD 66.
- CAVI Lemma: Fr. of RF cup. From Populonia. Undetermined Penthesilean. Second quarter
fifth.
- CAVI Subject: Int.: two youths.
- CAVI Inscriptions: Int.: Etruscan Dip.: metru.menece{1}.
- CAVI Footnotes: {1} the dot is an interpoint.
- CAVI Comments: Fiesel 1934 suggested menece = made it or gave it. Gill prefers the former
and thinks the vase was actually made in Italy (after Richter (1946)), the clay
being exported there. The inscription is painted before firing, in the regular
manner (see Richter). Brendel thinks the subject is a youth and a boy in
conversation. He discusses the possibility of the inscr. being Greek: the second
word could be Μενελε[ος] or voc. Μενελε [sic]. But the first word cannot be
explained as Greek. An Etruscan worker in Athens or an illiterate Greek worker?
- Johnston (1979), 49: the vase is mentioned a propos the question of Etruscan
participation in the trade, which had been claimed by Hackl (1909), 93.
- CAVI Number: 3702
- AVI Bibliography: Fiesel (1934), 436. — Minto (1934), 378, fig., fig. 32. — Brendel (1935),
530-31 (not ill.). — Minto (1943), 237. — Richter (1946), 21. — ARV[2] (1963),
969/66. — Webster (1972), 272 n. 1. — Colonna (1975), pl. 54,1-2. — Cristofani
(1979), 398, fig. 4. — Brommer (1984), 181 and n. 45. — Gill (1987), 82-87, fig.
1 (dr.). — Add.[2] (1989), 308.
- CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
- Pleiades URI: https://pleiades.stoa.org/places/409214
- Coordinates: 42.989449,10.49124
- Pleiades Coordinates: 42.9663768284,10.6797581081
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