213194, ATHENIAN, Florence, Museo Archeologico Etrusco, PD66

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Vase Number: 213194
Fabric: ATHENIAN
Technique: RED-FIGURE
Shape Name: CUP FRAGMENT
Provenance: ITALY, POPULONIA
Date: -475 to -425
Inscriptions: Inscription: METRU. MENECE
Attributed To: Group of PENTHESILEA P by BEAZLEY
Decoration: I: DRAPED YOUTHS, FILLET SUSPENDED
Current Collection: Florence, Museo Archeologico Etrusco: PD66
Publication Record: Beazley, J.D., Attic Red-Figure Vase-Painters, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1963): 969.66
Carpenter, T.H., with Mannack, T. and Mendonca, M., Beazley Addenda, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1989): 308
Revue des Etudes Anciennes: 89 (1987), 266, FIG.1 (DRAWING)
Torelli, M., The Etruscans (Milan, 2000): 260 RIGHT (COLOUR)
AVI Web: https://www.avi.unibas.ch/DB/searchform.html?ID=3879
AVI Record Number: 3702
CAVI Collection: Florence PD 66.
CAVI Lemma: Fr. of RF cup. From Populonia. Undetermined Penthesilean. Second quarter fifth.
CAVI Subject: Int.: two youths.
CAVI Inscriptions: Int.: Etruscan Dip.: metru.menece{1}.
CAVI Footnotes: {1} the dot is an interpoint.
CAVI Comments: Fiesel 1934 suggested menece = made it or gave it. Gill prefers the former and thinks the vase was actually made in Italy (after Richter (1946)), the clay being exported there. The inscription is painted before firing, in the regular manner (see Richter). Brendel thinks the subject is a youth and a boy in conversation. He discusses the possibility of the inscr. being Greek: the second word could be Μενελε[ος] or voc. Μενελε [sic]. But the first word cannot be explained as Greek. An Etruscan worker in Athens or an illiterate Greek worker? - Johnston (1979), 49: the vase is mentioned a propos the question of Etruscan participation in the trade, which had been claimed by Hackl (1909), 93.
CAVI Number: 3702
AVI Bibliography: Fiesel (1934), 436. — Minto (1934), 378, fig., fig. 32. — Brendel (1935), 530-31 (not ill.). — Minto (1943), 237. — Richter (1946), 21. — ARV[2] (1963), 969/66. — Webster (1972), 272 n. 1. — Colonna (1975), pl. 54,1-2. — Cristofani (1979), 398, fig. 4. — Brommer (1984), 181 and n. 45. — Gill (1987), 82-87, fig. 1 (dr.). — Add.[2] (1989), 308.
CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
Pleiades URI: https://pleiades.stoa.org/places/409214
Coordinates: 42.989449,10.49124
Pleiades Coordinates: 42.9663768284,10.6797581081

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