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6247, ATHENIAN, Rome, Mus. Naz. Etrusco di Villa Giulia, 84466

  • Vase Number: 6247
  • Fabric: ATHENIAN
  • Technique: BLACK-FIGURE
  • Shape Name: KYATHOS
  • Provenance: ITALY, ETRURIA, VULCI
  • Date: -550 to -500
  • Inscriptions: LYDOS
  • Last Recorded Collection: Rome, Mus. Naz. Etrusco di Villa Giulia: 84466
  • Publication Record: Antike Kunst: 21 (1978), PL.6
    Carpenter, T.H., with Mannack, T. and Mendonca, M., Beazley Addenda, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1989): 400
    Giudice, F. and Panvini, R. (eds.), Il greco, il barbaro e la ceramica attica, Immaginario del diverso, processi di scambio e autorappresentazione degli indegni, Volume Quarto, Atti del Convegno Internazionale di Studi 14-19 maggio 2001 (Rome, 2007): 31-32, FIGS.1A, 2
    Kalcyk, H. et al. (eds.), Studien zur Alten Geschichte, Festschrift Siegfried Lauffer (Rome, 1986): 3, PL.1 (FACING PAGE 804) (PART)
    Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae: III, PL.397, DIONYSOS 818 (PART)
    Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae: SUPPLEMENTUM 1, PL.253, ZEUS ADD.200 (PARTS)
    Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae: V, PL.155, HERAKLES 3389
    Metis: 5 (1990) 1-2, 68, FIG.5 (DRAWING)
    Numismatica e Antichita Classiche, Quaderni Ticinesi: 10 (1981), 55, PL.1 (PART)
    Numismatica e Antichita Classiche, Quaderni Ticinesi: 9 (1980), 40-45, PLS.1-4 (PART)
    Panciera, S. (ed.), Tituli 2, Miscellanea (Rome, 1980): PL.1 (PARTS)
    Rizzo, M.A. (ed.), Un Artista Etrusco e il suo mondo. Il Pittore di Micali (Rome, 1988): 88, FIG.155
    Scheibler, I., Griechische Töpferkunst, Herstellung, Handel und Gebrauch der antiken Tongefässe (Munich, 1983): 179, FIG.158 (PART)
    Scheibler, I., Griechische Töpferkunst, Herstellung, Handel und Gebrauch der antiken Tongefässe, 2nd ed. (Munich, 1995): 179, FIG.158 (PART)
    Shapiro, H.A., Art and Cult under the Tyrants in Athens (Mainz, 1989): PL.63A-C
    Torelli, M., The Etruscans (Milan, 2000): 599, NO.179 (COLOUR OF PARTS)
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  • AVI Record Number: 7257
  • CAVI Collection: Rome, Villa Giulia 84,466.
  • CAVI Lemma: BF kyathos. From Vulci, Osteria necropolis, tomb 145. Lydos the slave. Last quarter sixth.
  • CAVI Subject: Assembly of Gods: eleven divinities with Heracles, in six pairs: a male (Zeus?), and a female holding a fruit (Hebe?); a male (Hephaestus?), and a female (Aphrodite?) holding a flower; Heracles and Athena; in the center, Dionysus; Poseidon and Amphitrite(?); a male, and lower part of a female divinity.
  • CAVI Inscriptions: At the top of the scene, above and between heads, right under the top margin, starting to right of `Hephaestus'' head and ending to left of the right handle root: Add.[2]: Λυδὸς ἔγραφσεν δολοσονμυδεασσευγε[...]ο. Guarducci: Λυδὸς ἔγραφσεν δο̃λος ὂν Μυδέαςς [sic] εὐλέκ̣[τ]ο̅. She translates: `Lydos dipinse, essendo schiavo di Midea (o Mideia) dal bel talamo', giving an erotic meaning. She postulates Μυδεαςς for Μιδεας or Μιδειαςς; the double sigmas are above the head of Amphitrite. [I am not aware of the occurrence of double sigma at word end or before a vowel.] Neumann: Λυδὸς ^ ἔγρ^αφ^σεν ^ δο̃λο^ς ὂν Μ^υρ̣εν̣εὺς̣ ^ ἐ[....]ο. `Lydos hat es gemalt, der ein Sklave ist, (stammend) aus Myrina."(1) HRI: many letters are unclear: Λυδὸς ἔγραφσεν δ{the delta has a dot under it}ο̃λος ὂν Μυδ{the `rho' looks like a delta}ερ{this letter looks like tailed and pointed rho; perhaps a reversed sigma written over an iota?} ευλ{Neumann's sigma looks like Attic lambda} ευ̣{the tip of a diagonal stroke, like the left-hand stroke of upsilon} {the gap is marked by N. as four letters, but the female's head probably intervened; hence only 2-3 letters might be missing}ο. {The letter (dots) after (and below) the omicron mentioned by Canciano seem to me doubtful}. Λυδὸς ἔγραφσεν (δ)ο̃λος ὂν Μυδερευλευ[--]ο(?){2}.
  • CAVI Footnotes: {1} Myrina should be the coastal Aeolian city, not that on Lesbos. [But Pape gives Μυριναιος]. {2} Bea. Arch. gives: LYDOS EGRAPHSEN DOLOSONMURENEUS. This is Neumann's reading.
  • CAVI Comments: Robertson: the late weak style has no connection with the great Lydos. He is another man of the same ethnic origin. I.e. Lydos is a slave name. Canciani 17 and n. 2 interprets the two unique signs above `Amphitrite's' head not as letters but as `Krebsscheren', appropriate to this goddess. LGPN ii wrongly identifies this Lydos with the famous vase painter.
  • CAVI Number: 7257
  • AVI Bibliography: BADB 6247. — Robertson (1976), 29ff. and 42 (mention). — Tiverios (1976), 376. — Canciani–Neumann (1978), 17-22, fig. 1 (facs. of inscription), pl. 6. — SEG 28 (1978), no. 823, and SEG 31 (1981), no. 887. — Guarducci (1980), 40-45, pls. 1-4. — Guarducci (1980), 7-10. — Guarducci (1981), 55, pl. 1 (part). — Scheibler (1983), 113, fig. 103, bottom (dr. after AK 21); 179, fig. 158 (part). — Studien Lauffer (1986), 3, pl. 1 [[not found]]. — M.A. Rizzo (1988), 88, fig. 155. — Add.[2] (1989), 400. — Shapiro (1989), 97, 136 (bibl. n. 27) and 137, 158, 162, pl. 63,a-c (good for inscription). — AttScr (1990), no. 126. — Robertson (1992), 137.
  • CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
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  • Coordinates: 42.421429,11.702499
  • Pleiades Coordinates: 42.419009,11.6298975

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