Decoration: A: YOUTHS DEPARTING, WITH CHLAMYDES, WOMAN SHAKING HANDS, APOLLO WITH LAUREL SPRIG B: YOUTHS DEPARTING, WITH SPEARS, WOMEN, ONE WITH CLOTH (?) I: YOUTH DEPARTING, WITH SPEARS, CHLAMYS AND PILOS (THESEUS ?), WOMAN
Last Recorded Collection: Basel, Antikenmuseum und Sammlung Ludwig: BS432
Previous Collections:
Basel, market, Münzen und Medaillen A.G.
Publication Record: Avramidou, A., The Codrus Painter, Iconography and reception of Athenian vases in the age of Pericles (Madison, 2011): 110-111, PL.9A-C (I, A, B) Beazley, J.D., Paralipomena (Oxford, 1971): 472 Carpenter, T.H., with Mannack, T. and Mendonca, M., Beazley Addenda, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1989): 357 Corpus Vasorum Antiquorum: BASEL, ANTIKENMUSEUM UND SAMMLUNG LUDWIG 2, 48-50, BEILAGE 6.3, PLS.(282,286,287,293,296) 26.4, 30.1-2, 31.1-3, 37.4.8, 40.1 View Whole CVA Plates Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae: VII, PL.621, THERSANDROS II 5 (PART) Schefold, K., Jung, F., Die Sagen von den Argonauten, von Theben und Troia in der klassischen und hellenistischen Kunst (Munich, 1989): 88-89, FIGS.70-72 (A,B,I) Servadei, C., La figura di Theseus nella ceramica Attica, Iconografia e iconologia del mito nell' Atene arcaica e classica (Bologna, 2005): 183, FIG.80 (I) Spivey, N. and Rasmussen, T. (eds.) Looking at Greek Vases (Cambridge, 1991): 218, FIG.91 (A)
CAVI Lemma: RF CUP. CODRUS PAINTER. THIRD QUARTER FIFTH. CA. 430.
CAVI Subject: INT.: YOUTH AND WOMAN. A: APOLLO AND TWO YOUTHS; WOMAN AND YOUTH. B: WOMAN
AND YOUTHS. (BEAZLEY'S HEADING FOR ALL THIS IS: YOUTHS LEAVING HOME). CAHN:
INT.: YOUNG HERO AND GIRL. A: APOLLON BETWEEN TWO YOUTHS; BRIDAL COUPLE. B: TWO
WOMEN BETWEEN THREE YOUTHS. BERGER: INT.: THESEUS ASSISTING IN THE BURIAL OF THE
SEVEN, WITH ARGEIA, WIDOW OF POLYNEICES AND MOTHER OF THERSANDROS. A: TELAMON
AND ERIBOIA (MOTHER OF AJAX) HOLDING A CHILD AND MEETING ITS FATHER; AT RIGHT,
PROBABLY GLEUKE, FIRST WIFE OF TELAMON. B: ALCMAEON BEFORE APOLLO AT RIGHT,
THERSANDROS AND ERIPHYLE, MOTHER OF ALCMAEON, OR DEMONASSA, WIFE OF THERSANDROS.
CVA HAS A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION OF B.
CAVI Inscriptions: INT.: CVA HAS: IN TWO LINES: [--]ευς AND [--]εια, PROBABLY ΘΗΣΕΥΣ | ΑΡΓΕΙΑ,
CF. BERGER 129FF. I WOULD THEN READ: [Θη]σευς | [Αργ]εια. CAHN HAS: INT.:
NOTHING. A: [Α]πολλ[ων]. Θερσανδ|ρις (SIC: BETWEEN THE BRIDAL COUPLE).
[..]ε[...]ων(?), THE LEFT YOUTH. B: Μ[--]τενιος (BETWEEN THE RIGHT PAIR OF
FIGURES). Εριβοια (THE LEFT WOMAN). Τελαμων (FIGURE IN MIDDLE). ATTSCR HAS:
INT.: Θ̣[η]σευς. Αργεια. A: Nεανιας. [Α]πολλων. Θερσανδ|ρος, STOICH. B: Εριβοια.
Τελαμων. Μ[(1)-(2)]τενιος. BERGER GIVES: INT.: (Θ)[1-2]σευς. THE FIRST LETTER
THETA OR OMICRON. I.E.: (Θ)[ε]σευς(?). OR (Ο)δ/λυ]σ[σ]ευς(?). OR EVEN:
Π[ερ]σευς. [--]εια. [Μηδ]εια(??). PROBABLY: Αρ̣γ̣εια. A: Εριβοια. Τελαμων.
Μ..τενιος. B: [Α]πολλων. Θερσανδ|ρις. SO CAHN, A WOMAN; OR MISWRITTEN FOR
Θερσανδρος(?). BUT BERGER READS: Θερσανδρ[ο]ς. Nεανιας.
CAVI Comments: THE INSCRIPTIONS ARE VERY FAINT AND OBVIOSLY NOT YET WELL READ. - KRON LOOKS
FOR AN ATTIC CONNECTIONS OF THE MYTHS ON THIS VASE; SEE 298F. AND 301FF. ON PP.
297FF. SHE ARGUES THAT Nεανιας ON A IS AN ATTIC HERO. (SO ALREADY M. TIVERIOS
AND PETRAKOS: SEE KRON, 297 N. 35). PP. 298F.: THERSANDROS, ON B, USED BY BERGER
FOR HIS INTERPRETATIONS, IS A COMMON HEROIC NAME, E.G. THE NAME OF A LAPITH ON
THE FRANCOIS VASE (THEY WERE FRIENDS OF THESEUS). HER ATTIC INTERPRETATIONS ARE
SPECULATIVE. - NEANIAS OCCURS ALSO ON BERLIN EAST 2658 AND ON A CUP BY THE JENA
PAINTER IN ENSERUNE, ARV[2] 1512/16. ALSO AS HERO ON THE BASE OF THE CULT STATUE
OF NEMESIS AT RHAMNOUS (PAUS.I.33,8); IN THE SACRIFICIAL CALENDAR OF THE
MARATHONIAN TETRAPOLIS (IG II/2. 1358, LINE 21); AND THE SACRIFICIAL CALENDAR OF
THORIKOS (SEE SEG 33 (1983) 42FF.). - J. FINK, OJH 50 (1972–3) 166FF.
INTERPRETS: DEPARTURE OF WARRIOR; `MEMORIALBILD'. - ON THE SPELLINGS AND
ALPHABET USED BY THE CODRUS PTR. SEE KRON 302 AND NN.
CAVI Number: 1980
AVI Bibliography: M&M-AUCTION (1967), PLS. 58 AND 59/171. — BERGER (1968), 125FF., PLS. 19,1-3
AND 37,1-6 (INSCRIPTIONS). — PARA. (1971), 472. — ISLER-KERéNYI (1973), 30
(DATE). — KRON (1976), 175 N. 840. — LIMC I (1981), PL. 232, AIAS I/12 (B); PL.
312, ALKMAION 18 (A). — LIMC II (1984), PL. 328, ARGEIA 6 (INT.). — V.
SLEHOFEROVA, CVA BASEL 2, SWITZERLAND 6 (1984), PLS. 25,4 30,1-2, 31,1-3,
37,3,8, 40,1, BEILAGE 6,3 (BIBL.). — LIMC III (1986), PL. 593, ERIBOIA 2 (B,
PART). — KRON (1988), 291-304 (BIBL. N. 2), PL. 86,1-2 (A, B). — ADD.[2] (1989),
357. — ATTSCR (1990), NO. 791.
CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
