Decoration: A: YOUTHS DEPARTING, WITH CHLAMYDES, WOMAN SHAKING HANDS, APOLLO WITH LAUREL SPRIG B: YOUTHS DEPARTING, WITH SPEARS, WOMEN, ONE WITH CLOTH (?) I: YOUTH DEPARTING, WITH SPEARS, CHLAMYS AND PILOS (THESEUS ?), WOMAN
Last Recorded Collection: Basel, Antikenmuseum und Sammlung Ludwig: BS432
Previous Collections:
Basel, market, Münzen und Medaillen A.G.
Publication Record: Avramidou, A., The Codrus Painter, Iconography and reception of Athenian vases in the age of Pericles (Madison, 2011): 110-111, PL.9A-C (I, A, B) Beazley, J.D., Paralipomena (Oxford, 1971): 472 Carpenter, T.H., with Mannack, T. and Mendonca, M., Beazley Addenda, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1989): 357 Corpus Vasorum Antiquorum: BASEL, ANTIKENMUSEUM UND SAMMLUNG LUDWIG 2, 48-50, BEILAGE 6.3, PLS.(282,286,287,293,296) 26.4, 30.1-2, 31.1-3, 37.4.8, 40.1 View Whole CVA Plates Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae: VII, PL.621, THERSANDROS II 5 (PART) Schefold, K., Jung, F., Die Sagen von den Argonauten, von Theben und Troia in der klassischen und hellenistischen Kunst (Munich, 1989): 88-89, FIGS.70-72 (A,B,I) Servadei, C., La figura di Theseus nella ceramica Attica, Iconografia e iconologia del mito nell' Atene arcaica e classica (Bologna, 2005): 183, FIG.80 (I) Spivey, N. and Rasmussen, T. (eds.) Looking at Greek Vases (Cambridge, 1991): 218, FIG.91 (A)
CAVI Lemma: RF cup. Codrus Painter. Third quarter fifth. Ca. 430.
CAVI Subject: Int.: youth and woman. A: Apollo and two youths; woman and youth. B: woman
and youths. (Beazley's heading for all this is: youths leaving home). Cahn:
Int.: young hero and girl. A: Apollon between two youths; bridal couple. B: two
women between three youths. Berger: Int.: Theseus assisting in the burial of the
Seven, with Argeia, widow of Polyneices and mother of Thersandros. A: Telamon
and Eriboia (mother of Ajax) holding a child and meeting its father; at right,
probably Gleuke, first wife of Telamon. B: Alcmaeon before Apollo at right,
Thersandros and Eriphyle, mother of Alcmaeon, or Demonassa, wife of Thersandros.
CVA has a different interpretation of B.
CAVI Inscriptions: Int.: CVA has: in two lines: [--]ευς and [--]εια, probably ΘΗΣΕΥΣ | ΑΡΓΕΙΑ,
cf. Berger 129ff. I would then read: [Θη]σευς | [Αργ]εια. Cahn has: Int.:
nothing. A: [Α]πολλ[ων]. Θερσανδ|ρις (sic: between the bridal couple).
[..]ε[...]ων(?), the left youth. B: Μ[--]τενιος (between the right pair of
figures). Εριβοια (the left woman). Τελαμων (figure in middle). AttScr has:
Int.: Θ̣[η]σευς. Αργεια. A: Nεανιας. [Α]πολλων. Θερσανδ|ρος, stoich. B: Εριβοια.
Τελαμων. Μ[(1)-(2)]τενιος. Berger gives: Int.: (Θ)[1-2]σευς. The first letter
theta or omicron. I.e.: (Θ)[ε]σευς(?). Or (Ο)δ/λυ]σ[σ]ευς(?). Or even:
Π[ερ]σευς. [--]εια. [Μηδ]εια(??). Probably: Αρ̣γ̣εια. A: Εριβοια. Τελαμων.
Μ..τενιος. B: [Α]πολλων. Θερσανδ|ρις. So Cahn, a woman; or miswritten for
Θερσανδρος(?). But Berger reads: Θερσανδρ[ο]ς. Nεανιας.
CAVI Comments: The inscriptions are very faint and obviosly not yet well read. - Kron looks
for an Attic connections of the myths on this vase; see 298f. and 301ff. On pp.
297ff. she argues that Nεανιας on A is an Attic hero. (So already M. Tiverios
and Petrakos: see Kron, 297 n. 35). Pp. 298f.: Thersandros, on B, used by Berger
for his interpretations, is a common heroic name, e.g. the name of a Lapith on
the Francois Vase (they were friends of Theseus). Her Attic interpretations are
speculative. - Neanias occurs also on Berlin East 2658 and on a cup by the Jena
Painter in Enserune, ARV[2] 1512/16. Also as hero on the base of the cult statue
of Nemesis at Rhamnous (Paus.i.33,8); in the sacrificial calendar of the
Marathonian Tetrapolis (IG ii/2. 1358, line 21); and the sacrificial calendar of
Thorikos (see SEG 33 (1983) 42ff.). - J. Fink, OJh 50 (1972–3) 166ff.
interprets: Departure of warrior; `Memorialbild'. - On the spellings and
alphabet used by the Codrus Ptr. see Kron 302 and nn.
CAVI Number: 1980
AVI Bibliography: M&M-Auction (1967), pls. 58 and 59/171. — Berger (1968), 125ff., pls. 19,1-3
and 37,1-6 (inscriptions). — Para. (1971), 472. — Isler-Kerényi (1973), 30
(date). — Kron (1976), 175 n. 840. — LIMC i (1981), pl. 232, Aias I/12 (B); pl.
312, Alkmaion 18 (A). — LIMC ii (1984), pl. 328, Argeia 6 (Int.). — V.
Slehoferova, CVA Basel 2, Switzerland 6 (1984), pls. 25,4 30,1-2, 31,1-3,
37,3,8, 40,1, Beilage 6,3 (bibl.). — LIMC iii (1986), pl. 593, Eriboia 2 (B,
part). — Kron (1988), 291-304 (bibl. n. 2), pl. 86,1-2 (A, B). — Add.[2] (1989),
357. — AttScr (1990), no. 791.
CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)