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201790, ATHENIAN, Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum, Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig, Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig, Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig, New York (N.Y.), private, D. von Bothmer, Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum, Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum, Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum, Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig, Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum, Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum, 93.AE.54

  • Vase Number: 201790
  • Fabric: ATHENIAN
  • Technique: RED-FIGURE
  • Shape Name: SKYPHOS, FRAGMENTS
  • Date: -500 to -450
  • Inscriptions: Kalos/Kale: MEGAKLES KALOS (?)
    Named: THETIS, [A]THE[NAIA], MEGA[…
  • Attributed To: Perhaps KLEOPHRADES P by BEAZLEY
  • Decoration: A: ACHILLES BROUGHT TO CHIRON, PELEUS, THETIS (NAMED), APOLLO, FIGURE
    B: DRAPED FIGURE SEATED ON CHAIR, WOMEN, DRAPED FIGURES, ONE WITH KEY AND STAFF (CHRYSES, AGAMEMNON, CHRYSEIS, BRISEIS, AND ATHENA [NAMED] ?)
  • Last Recorded Collection: Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig: T3840
  • Previous Collections:
    • Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig: T3840a
    • Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig: T3840b
    • Leipzig, Antikenmuseum der Universität Leipzig: T3840c
    • New York (N.Y.), private, D. von Bothmer
    • Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum: 86.271.1-2
    • Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum: 86.AE.270.1-3
    • Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum: 86.AE.224.1-3
    • Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum: 77.AE.21.11
    • Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum: 95.AE.31.1
    • Malibu (CA), The J. Paul Getty Museum: 93.AE.54
  • Publication Record: Batino, S., Lo skyphos attico dall'iconografia alla funzione (Naples, 2002): 471, FIG.47 (A)
    Beazley, J.D., Attic Red-Figure Vase-Painters, 2nd edition (Oxford, 1963): 193
    Corpus Vasorum Antiquorum: LEIPZIG, ANTIKENMUSEUM 4, 70, FIG.11, BEILAGE 20.1, PL.(5599) 67.1-3 View Whole CVA Plates
    Lexicon Iconographicum Mythologiae Classicae: SUPPLEMENTUM I, PL.7 ACHILLEUS ADD 6
    Oakley, J.H. et al., Athenian Potters and Painters, The Conference Proceedings (Oxford, 1997): 197-199, FIGS.2-4
    PHOTOGRAPH(S) IN THE BEAZLEY ARCHIVE: 3
  • AVI Web: https://www.avi.unibas.ch/DB/searchform.html?ID=4353
  • AVI Record Number: 4183
  • LIMC ID: 201743
  • LIMC Web: http://ark.dasch.swiss/ark:/72163/080e-76a850bf38822-4
  • CAVI Collection: Leipzig T 3840.+
  • CAVI Lemma: Frs. of RF skyphos. Kleophrades Painter (D. Williams){1}. First quarter fifth. Later (Williams).
  • CAVI Subject: A: Thetis presenting the child Achilles to Chiron{2}. B: problematic: perhaps Chryses before Agamemnon (Iliad 1). C] A: to right of Thetis' back of head: Θετις. Peleus{3}. Chiron{4}. B: on a fr. not attributed by Beazley (fig. 3,e): Μεγα[--]{5}. On the extreme right, fig. 3,l: [--]θ̣ε[--], probably [Α]θ̣ε[ναια] (Williams). On an unplaced fr. (fig. 4, third fr. from left): [--]ν. Under the glaze, on two frs., nonsense inscriptions: Leipzig 3840b: [--]ον(.)[--]. Getty: 86.AE.270.2: [--]νονε (the epsilon faces down){6}.
  • CAVI Footnotes: {1} "may be", Beazley. {2} Beazley in ARV[2] 193 had listed the subject of T 3840 as the Wedding of Peleus. {3} "parts of Peleus' name, written retrograde,' Williams, p. 197. {4} "between [Chiron] and Peleus the end of [Chiron's] name,' ibidem. {5} Beazley read Μεγα[κλες καλος] under his Megakles I (see below, 4184) who belongs in the late sixth century, but Williams points out that the chronology does not fit once the fr. is given to the later Kleophrades Painter, and that the latter does not have any kalos-names. He suggests a signature; if Leipzig T 3771 (q.v., CAVI 4182) belongs it might be the painter's signature. W. suggests that the Kleophrades Painter's name was Megakles. [This seems to me unlikely: there are many names beginning Μεγα[--] and the name may be a label (in which case W.'s tentative interpretation of B would have to be revised.] {6} see Williams, n. 44; for other inscriptions below the glaze, W. refers to AttScr (1990), 174 n. 6. W. points out that this type of nonsense inscription is Brygan and he speculates on p. 200 how these letters came to be in the preliminary sketch.
  • CAVI Comments: + Leipzig T 3889a-c, T 38/40 [sic Williams n. 16), T 3885 (see below, 4184), and unnumbered frs. in Leipzig. + Malibu 77.AE.21.11. Malibu ex Bareiss: 86.AE.224.1-3 (Bareiss 371); 86.AE.270.1-3 (372); 86.AE.271.1-2 (373). + Malibu, frs. ex Center Island, N.Y. Malibu 93.AE.54.1 and 54.3. - The fr. Leipzig T 3771 is included as no. 4182a (above).
  • CAVI Number: 4183
  • AVI Bibliography: ARV[2] (1963), *193, top (T 3840 and three unnumbered frs.), *1598/4 (T 3885, unatt.). — D. Williams (1997), 196ff., figs. 2-4, perhaps 5.
  • CAVI / AVI Data from Henry Immerwahr's Corpus of Attic Vase Inscriptions (CAVI), updated by Rudoph Wachter's Attic Vase Inscriptions (AVI)
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Last updated 03/08/2024 04:08:00. Approved 19/09/2023 10:24:25 by Mannack, Thomas. Copyright © 2003-2025 Classical Art Research Centre, University of Oxford.

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